Sticking with MT while others abandon ship


Over at Mutated Monkeys, Beth posted a list of some of the web sites she reads, noting whether the site migrated away from or stayed with Movable Type since Six Apart announced the new MT licensing terms two weeks ago.

Of the weblogs I read, the following have migrated away from Movable Type to Expression Engine:

I don't read any of the sites on Beth's list, but one of the names really jumped out at me - Sekimori Design (Stacy Tabb), who is switching to Expression Engine. Stacy has a long "Who's Who" list of weblog clients she's set up on Movable Type (of which I know more than a few). Regarding the decision to abandon Movable Type, Stacy says:

From the "this should have been the FIRST question you asked" department, the Trotts (et al.) are asking how we're using MT.


Will I pay $600 for the commercial version (20 authors, 15 blogs)? Despite my extended relationship with Movable Type, my pleasure in working with the software, and delight in discovering new things to do with, I will not. I will pack up, as laborious a process as that will be, and find something else.

UPDATE - Oh yeah, I just remembered the biggest thing I use MT for...FOR EVERY SINGLE WEBLOG CLIENT OF SEKIMORI'S FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS. I'm just sayin'.

I can't blame Stacy - I'm not willing to pay $600 for Movable Type either. I recently purchased a $70 Personal Edition license for MT3, which was really more than I wanted to pay. I thought $50 would be a fair price; if I had to pay $100, I would be looking for new blogging software too. The $70 "introductory price" was in a gray area for me. I'm not really interested in testing and learning new software at this point in time, so I grudgingly decided to buy the license now and see what Six Apart does in the future.

Six Apart seems to be listening to users' feedback about the licensing - the terms have already been changed once and more changes are supposedly on the way. For the time being, I'm staying with Movable Type and hoping that Six Apart doesn't make me regret that decision.


Just as a sidenote, I moved off of MT - initially to textpattern - 2 weeks before the licensing debacle began. My reasons were tied up around their severely lacking business model and absurd licening at the time. This was previous to charging for personal use.

But for $100, ExpressionEngine is by far and away the more worthy of the price. Just my own opinion. =)

I think Sekimori Design is another example of how Six Apart didn't kick off the Developer's Release, and Developer's Network in the best way. There wasn't (and to some extent, still isn't) enough information about to see how this all affects those offering services to MT users. It is entirely possible that, apart from the cost of her own license (which is up for debate/change in light of the mail out to those that expressed interest in the Developer's Network), offering her services to MT users would have become easier and more viable an option. Which is what Six Apart intended.

It's too late now, of course, but it would have been so much better had the Developer's Network been launched prior to the release, so these kinds of issues could have been sorted out, and optimised beforehand. It was frustrating to me, the lack of information for "Developers" that accompanied the release. Obviously, it got tangled with the personal licensing issues, but still. I hope that improves in the future. :-)

Sekimori has/had a special agreement with Six Apart for its web design business, which was necessary due to the old license terms. I thought it was somewhat ironic (and sad) that even though the special agreement should no longer be necessary and indeed make it easier for Sekimori to offer MT-related services, the new license costs and limits were so distasteful that Sekimori walked away after 3 years of working with Movable Type.

As far as the Developer's Network goes, I'm still waiting to for Six Apart show me something that is a clear benefit to me. I have a post bottled up inside my head about why the Developer's Network barely has any appeal to someone like me (even after receiving the latest e-mail) - perhaps I will write it soon.

That's fair enough. I just know it has appeal to someone like me - who is constantly offered paid work, doing design and supoprt stuff. I don't have big clients, and I don't imagine I ever will. Anything to make it easier for me to make a few dollars, and keep a few people happy, is fine with me. :-)

As for not seeing any benefit yet, remember that we've been told that they are seeking our input as to how they can best do that. ;-)

I keep forgetting to sign in! :-o

I forgot to clarify that while I've been offered paid work, I've always turned it down because of the licensing terms. Now I don't have to. Sure, the number of people who might want to pay me has probably diminished now that they'll all (personal or commercial) have to have a license, but that's no big worry to me. I'm sure it is to some.

And I think the very idea of a referral/affiliate scheme is a good one. I've emailed a few questions directly to SA with regard to the network, and what it means for me. I've been happy with the responses so far, and I definitely look forward to hearing more. I'm certainly not as unhappy as I was when this was all first announced. :-)

I keep forgetting to sign in! :-o

I'd been wondering why you didn't use a TypeKey sign-in for your previous comments. For all I knew, you were secretly protesting TypeKey. ;)

I've never been offered any paid work and don't see that changing any time soon, which I'm sure has a lot to do with my current lack of enthusiasm for the Developer's Network.

When you consider that the MT folks barely test their product, (I found the MTCommentsField problems about 1 hour into using MT for the first time) I don't think a set of perl scripts is worth $70. When you start charging people for software you have an obligation to make sure basic features are not obviously broken.